Any idea what could be the issue. I will gather tools and bolts and then have to resign myself to pulling the VC. 2. Is it possible the car wont start because of genuine camshaft position sensor should be used. I appreciate your help. They look ok. Do you think it can be a ECU or software related issue? Ok heres another vanos unit off a 2011 328 N51 engine,,,,this is the intake vanos unit that is now in several pieces,,,,the customer was just driving on the highway when the engine just lost power. (LogOut/ Find many great new & used options and get the best deals for 12-18 BMW 228i 328i 428i 528i X1 X3 X5 Z4 - 2.0L N20 TURBO ENGINE CYLINDER BLOCK at the best online prices at eBay! Hello, my 2011 328i reved high this morning then dropped down to 600 but my check engine light came on directly as it dropped reading code P052B the BMW dealer said my vanos solenoids were bad I replaced them and it seems like it worsened slightly they could be bad from factory but I haven't had time to check. You never know about these class action suits,,,I totally understand you leaving BMW. It is not intended as repair advice and we are not responsible for any actions Sorry for the confusion, I understand you have the N20 engine,,,,what Im saying on the N20 engine the vans unit failing is not a common problem like the N51,,,,,on the N20 engine there are no replacement bolts for the vanos unit not like the N51. If one of the applicable faults listed above is stored in the DME then continue with the Sorry for the confusion, No, I have changed timing chain on 2013 BMW 328i xdrive this is the codes Im getting 131501 120408 131908 . Here is a video of whats happening today. Yes it should,,,,but sometimes some random faults might still be their, The service engine light has not cleared. ISTA says these errors: But youll need the long security t45 socket, a standard t45, and a torque angle wrench. - VANOS solenoid valve seized. Appreciate 0 Quote 08-06-2020, 02:07 PM #5: slas1990. After installation, I now have a check engine light with the following codes: P052B (Cold Start "A" camshaft position timing over-retarded, bank 1), P054B (Cold start "B" camshaft Position timing over-retarded bank 1), P05CC (Cold Start "A" camshaft Position timing performance, bank 1), P13C0 (A' camshaft stuck, bank 1), P13C9 (B' camshaft stuck, Check the appropriate repair manual or repair database for the exact code definition. Apart from warning lights how can you tell if this is running propert? P052B. I live for failure analyses, just not on my own car engine! Dash lights up with transmission gear exclamation point and lift ramp both in yellow. Depending on what type of camshaft position sensor you have (e.g. 130304 Intermittent VANOS (variable cam shaft timing) exhaust: control fault, camshaft stuck Tried to read live camshaft sensors read ista says that currenty no data is sent from them to DME. I checked the chain from the oil filler cap and was able to move the chain side to side on the chain guide about 3-4mm it doesnt seem overly loose. BMW offered me 20% off a brand new engine. The oil filter element appears to collapsed / sucked in at the center. It is a total mystery (to me) as to why it works now. It sounded like a diesel. Id rather not pay more money. So I went to a local specialty shop. Could this be the timing chain? E84 I manually crank engine over few time but after start it always goes retarded on exhaust cam shaft. The ECM is majorly affected with this kind of problem, which is why a technician should take a look at your vehicle if this trouble code or related ones appear. When a camshaft sensor fails, the check engine light will illuminate and a fault code will be stored. Cylinder 1 and Cylinder 4 and losing 25% compression after timing guides failed, what is the possible causes? No turnover on start at all. I got the security t45 at Home Depot. $99. [ Copyright 2013 BMW of North America, Inc. ] Code 132408 Vanos Exhaust Intake camshaft not locking at start up Ok,,,,no the sprocket does not have to be in a special position,,,,you have to lock down both camshaft with special tool,,,engine on TDC,,,,you have to tighten the chain tensioner and then you can tighten both vanos unit,,,you should be able to hand turn over the engine to TDC and lock down the camshafts again with the tool and you should be fine after that. repairs to the engine valve train assembly. I actually think thats causing the noise. The car ran for a mile or so then seized. Sorry if this is an unrelated topic to the thread, but I need to replace the high pressure fuel pump on my N20. if you can direct me in the right path I will really appreciated . but after 3-4 minutes these fault codes with a message -Drivetrain problem comes in the display. com,BMW N51 N52 N54 N55 Timing. I have a 2012 F30 320i auto. Usually the Vanos units lock in its default position when engine is turned off. They don't have a BT cable but hook up an OBDII scanner and there is a 3100 limp mode code, P0305, P0302, P0300 and P052B, P054B . What do you mean about "long" t45? If you replace one does it need pluging into for a valvetronic re-learn update or is it just a like for like mechanical replacement including the relating fuel lines? BMW must be accountable for this. 2013 BMW 328i with N20 engine.Chain guide/chain failure. P054B. The first start up gave many more codes but I have cleared the fault codes several times and these two appear along with the consequence fault code of 120408 Charge pressure control off. The failure of this VVT self-test stems from the exceeded minimum calibration of the camshaft timing or it remains in an retarded position. Thanks, The charge pressure fault is probably due to the the vanos fault,,,,it looks like you replaced all the general stuff already and you are sure the timing is correct,,,,,you said the engine had low water damage what does that mean,,,is it possible the exhaust camshaft is binding,,,,you might want to check the exhaust camshaft journal caps. I just talked to BMW "Owner Reimbursement". I am not sure if it was the wrong filter. Ok Ill do that. There was junk trapped I've been told in the oil passages blocking lubrication of the crank etc which consists of the last 7 digits of the Vehicle Identification Number (VIN). 61 21 528 Refer to KSD2 Charging battery Neither the VANOS units nor the solenoids have been replaced. Thank You very much for the reply !! But that means the camshafts can come to rest slightly out of timing, and only are properly timed when theres hydraulic pressure! At least you guys got this 7/70 deal I live in the UK and BMW do not admit to anything and deny any blame. Hi bmw technician. How could I tell the time to open the engine is my best option. Thanks. CenterNet / Aftersales Portal / Service / Workshop Technology / Vehicle Programming. troubleshooting with the applicable test plan for the fault(s) stored. Tried test with ista for vanos solenoid test removed solenoid stiff does not move when activated. Just replaced timing chain and oil pump module on n20 13 528i xdrive. Basically, this systems allows the ECM to monitor the mechanical timing between the camshaft and the crankshaft. i am getting the following error codes on my 2013 BMW X3 (107k miles): 0L), N52N engine, RWD, AT. The engine sounds exactly the same as the first time it started after the timing chain installation. Is my engine seized because of this scenario. It revs fine but with the turbo disabled a drive around the block is at a pedestrian pace. bmw n20 system too lean ygrene miami. Bank 1 refers to the side of the engine that has cylinder #1. My VIN is covered, you can check at bmw-rp.com, but NOT my mileage, the extended warranty offered by BMW for this issue is 7 years, 70,000 miles. This Diagnostic Trouble Code (DTC) will set when the Engine Control Module ( ECM) is unable to control the actuator correctly. The chain was definitely tighter very little slack to speak of. I have told the SAs and foremen to check timing chain in the past dealer oil changes, they just informally listened and looked, and said all was good. Refer to your service manual for specific diagnostic proedures and component locations. 131501 VANOS, intake, starting from cold: Non-adjustable Would you suspect this is more related to the software reprogram or is the timing off? He also opened engine oil cap and checked that the timing chain + slide rail(engine just turned off) was tight with no snag. three fault codes are Do you think it is worth paying $200 to do this? 3- oil- my hood says 0-20. i like -0-30. just curious about the 0-20 spec.. Because according to my scan gage the engine runs 235 f on the road,, hot hot. Cold Start "A" Camshaft Position Timing Over Retarded Bank 1. I am thinking that I will periodically inspect until I have another reason to pull the VC, at which point I will replace the bolts. Children had the highest levels with an average of 3.. May Improve Sleep Quality. The replacement bolts are like .28 cents each. Big job. I replaced the timing chain, oil pump drive assembly and new spark plugs. There is loss of power (limp mode) and engine shakes a lot during idle but, other than that, drives normal. Bringing the BMW community together. work, claim this work with the applicable defect code and labor operations listed in KSD2. E84 and E89: Yesterday I did get all the fault codes cleared. Thanks for your reply. To set the timing properly you have to be sure the Vanos units are locked its end position, so its moving 1:1 with the camshaft. I have checked timing multiple times, I found this article online and this is what Im thinking right now!! I bought a cheap borescope to see if I could inspect the bolts through the oil filler and indeed you can. Vanos solenoids/actuators I should have said. My question is, when I remove the central valve, will the timing chain or sprockets will slip their position? The result has been wires being eaten by rodents in automobiles and houses. Ok the charge boost pressure fault is related to the vanos faults,,,,the vanos faults could be a couple of things but since you just replaced the timing chain maybe the timing is not correct on the intake vanos unit? Problem is, mine arent locked. for this problem there is a software update available. There were no faults. 1. It idles fine and sounds much better than before. an engineer? The car moves fine except for 1 issue at low revs on higher gears, a clanking noise is heard from the engine when load is added by pressing accelerator or upon approaching a hill. Changed the oil filter and OIL. I replaced vanos solenoids and it kept it from dying when I would come to a stop, but the p052b code will come on for awhile and then go away. 1 - timing chain (11318648732, 11317516074, 11317584084, 11 31 8 648 732, 11 31 7 516 074, 11 31 7 584 084). 133E10 -permanent valvetronic system: deactivated, adjustment fault too frequent Risking my good fortune I had to run the VANOS function test again. When the VANOS solenoids were removed for testing I checked the marks I made on the VANOS impulse wheels and on the harmonic balancer and they looked perfect. E81 / E82 / E87 / E88Model Year: 2004 - 2011. you take on any vehicle. https://www.bmwtis.net/tiscode/cgi-bin/bulletin.aspx?sie_path=/tsb/bulletins/htm_store/158. E84 and E89 Perform a vehicle test. no hesitation. also by any chance would you know the torque specs for this bolts? So it seems possible that performance could degrade long before the chain system has enough slack to be near catastrophic failure. am i SAFE for the timing chain issues.